Comments on: Conversions: Whose Job Is It Anyway? https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/ Professional Speakers, Best Selling Authors, Online Marketing Pioneers Thu, 03 Oct 2024 18:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: This Week in Social Analytics #16 at TweetReach Blog https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32602 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:06:50 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32602 […] Conversions: Whose Job Is It Anyway? Bryan Eisenberg asks: Who owns conversions in your organization? With many companies’ online marketing efforts, there are many people responsible for driving traffic but virtually no one responsible for converting that traffic into revenue. As social media channels further fragment online traffic, companies must not ignore conversions. […]

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By: TheGrok https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32599 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:55:57 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32599 In reply to Scotty Sax.

Scotty – like you said this issue has been around a long time. As I shared in http://bryaneisenberg.com/2011/05/we-convert-or-else-are-we-still-struggling-to-be-creative/

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By: Bill Laidlaw https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32598 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:24:45 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32598 In reply to TheGrok.

I have read it a dozen times, shaking my head each time. It is truly remarkable how he could have been writing about Adwords not direct mail.

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By: Nate Moller https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32596 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:06:36 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32596 Amen, Amen, and Amen! My background has ALWAYS been in sales. Since I was a young kid I’ve been a salesman: little league baseball fundraisers, high school baseball orange sales to raise money for stadium lights, selling rain ponchos at college football games – I believe SALES IS WHERE IT’S AT!

I also believe that new business owners in the online world often times look beyond the mark. They want crafty design, they want traffic, they want placement at the top of Google – but it’s not very often that they talk about conversion. It’s like their afraid to even go there.

A nice looking site may help with sales, but it’s not the end all cure all answer. Rankings at the top of Google for what I call “Browser Phrases” won’t get you sales either.

Thanks for this great reminder about the importance of sales in a business person’s online “marketing” efforts.

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By: Scotty Sax https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32593 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:57:27 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32593 Bryan, you nailed this one! Thirty One Years ago when I created my first DRTV campaign for a client, I thought it was my job to make the phone ring… and my client’s job to Convert the lead to a sale. Boy was I wrong. I quickly realized I was going to have to learn how to consult and even more importantly create Sales Conversion systems on the back end.

While the Inbound Call Center was the darling intake method for leads back in 1980, rather than the Web form / Web Sales Funnel, the result was the same. We generated leads hand over fist using TV back then, and in fact greatly improved the client’s Cost Per Lead Metric by 300% (We cut their lead cost from $100 to $25) by simply paying attention to Good Marketing Basics (101 stuff). The Client was estactic and I was a hero. I told them… NOT SO FAST…. we haven’t closed the loop (sale) yet on the back end. The fast and hard influx of Leads was enough to make the founder of this Land Development company invest heavily in TV. That was the Good news. The bad news… Indeed I was right. This tremendous improvement in the Cost Per Lead had nothing to do with lowering their customer acquisition cost or Cost per Sale or Sales at all! In fact, the influx of leads into the pipeline from TV in greater numbers than their small sales team could begin to handle, meant only a slight improvement to Cost Per Sale. I’ll spare you the details but their conversion rates actually dropped slightly because leads were so plentiful and the sales team got fot, dumb and happy. Ownership of the company took NO responsibility or interest in the Actual Lead to Sales conversion process and the analysis I had prepared to show the true impact of their very first TV campaign under my direction. Fast Forward to today, that client is now a MUCH LARGER Client and our Media buys have expaned from Traditional Media to many marketing tools in the New Media Tool box. However, with the exception of automation and technology enabled marketing, not much has changed. My client is still enamored with our ability to generate leads lead leads. Ownership and Upper Management give the Sales Managers in the field way too much autonomy and flexibility in Converting Sales and not enough Accountability to the Sales Conversion process. Thank god the Leads are still flowing . That part is still easy as the client does leave us to do what we do best, generate leads. In the meantime, I have come to accept that as a Direct Response Marketer I am not only in the LEad Generation business, but out of necessity in the Land Sales business as we continue to help our client find ways to improve their conversion process (shout out to Salesforce.com).

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By: JeffreyGroks https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32592 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:28:39 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32592 In reply to Cos.

This comment proves the point. So sad.

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By: Cos https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32591 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:11:30 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32591 I believe the main reason CRO isn’t attributed a job title is because you can’t really offer an employee 8 hours per day 5 days per week and a good paycheck just for CRO.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s essential and people don’t seem to understand the difference between having a 1% rate of conversions and a 2%. It’s freaking double the revenue! And this just by doing some fine tuning.

But the thing is that there isn’t really that much to be done to work full time on this aspect (at least in-house). Instead, having an SEO or PPC Manager that knows CRO is a win.

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By: TheGrok https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32590 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:34:21 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32590 In reply to Jeanne Mayeux.

I am not sure it is as simple as that Jeanne. However, video is great at conveying complex ideas better than words alone can so it can be incredibly powerful.

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By: Jeanne Mayeux https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32589 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:00:31 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32589 You are right not many think this way. It is so fundamental. I am graduating with a BS in Internet Marketing next month so glad I read this. I think I will specialize in conversions. Right now I do video marketing and video SEO. I think video drives conversions on a website more than any other element could. Do you agree, Bryan?

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By: TheGrok https://www.bryaneisenberg.com/conversions-whose-job-is-it-anyway/#comment-32584 Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:58:27 +0000 http://www.bryaneisenberg.com/?p=1207#comment-32584 In reply to Bill Laidlaw.

To this day I recommend every one read Scientific Advertising by Claude Hopkins if they want to be in the testing field and that book is almost 100 years old.

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